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Classic Car Watch
Alternative Pony Car
March 1, 2006
By Scott Lewis
Recently I listed nothing but Mustangs. Mustangs from 65-68. I am a bigger fan of the Camaro than the Mustang, but there are just so many Mustangs out there I can easily get away with one column just for them. I was going to do another column on the Camaro, but I still wanted to cover the remaining "alternative" Pony Cars. Rather than run two more columns dedicated to Pony Cars I decided to put the rest right here.
This month I will cover all the competition that came out
because of the Mustang. To make things interesting I will bring back the two preferred cars from the 65-68 Mustang article
to see how they stack up against "the
competition."
The cars I will am looking for are 67-73 Camaro, 67-74 Barracuda, 70-74 Challenger,
67-73 Cougar, 68-73 Javelin (including AMX), and 67-73 Firebird. Since I only included Mustangs from 65-68 last time, I will give the rest a chance and look at vintage 69-73 this time.
As an extra surprise, if I can find any good examples I may also include
74-77 Mustangs. I know, the Mustang IIs were crap.
Well, not really. Think about it. In 1974 Ford sold 385,993 Mustangs. That's more than they sold in the years 68-73, and close to the 472,121 sold in 67. Although the Muscle Car crowd liked the bigger, badder
Mustangs, the general public did not. The 74 Mustang sold well because it was more like the original 65 Mustang... a small, light weight sporty car that was easy to drive.
It was really more than a dressed up Pinto. The rack and pinion steering in the Mustang II was so good that its
design is still used to this day in hot rods and swaps of all kinds. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that there are more Mustang II "based" rack and pinion steering units on the road now then were originally installed in Mustangs.
I found a lot of cars for this month's column. When I finished compiling my initial list there were 73 cars here. There was just no way I was going to put that many cars here. But I did want to give you the taste of what I found. I did my best to come up with one preferred car for each car listed above.
If you want a Pony Car they are out there.
You just can't be too picky about the make and
model. Also, a few convertibles made the list.
If you want a convertible Pony car you might
want to take a look at the 71-73 Mustang. They
are still affordable... even as convertibles.
They weigh a lot, so they are cruisers. But if
performance is second to a cool old convertible
then the 71-73 vintage is the way to go.
Well, the playing field has been set. Let's see what we can make of these Pony Cars:
1965 Ford Mustang - $14,995 (Previous Preferred Mustang in the "Ready To Drive" Category)
Description: Professionally restored as
needed recently, engine rebuilt about 12k miles
ago. New carb, shocks, coils, sway bar, dual
exhaust, alarm. Always garaged and extremely
well kept. Doors fit tight, hood and trunk are
just like factory install. If you want the best
one around here it is. Pictures just don't do
this beauty justice! Power steering, power door
locks, radio, alarm.
NADA: $15,188 - $23,250
Source: Specialty Sales
Found: 07/01/05
Comments: What's not to like. Looking around the car we see a super clean Mustang in a nice metallic blue with style steel wheels. We even have the valance for Trumpet exhaust. O.K. It doesn't have the correct tips to the exhaust, but we can fix that in time. Jump inside and we have a two-tone Pony interior with a console & wood steering wheel. We look under the hood and we have power steering, power brakes and air conditioning. I love it. I would like to see it with GT fog lights to complete the look. Other than that I would drive it just the way it is.
This car is pushing my 6 month limit, but at the time I found it I would have jumped at it.
1967 Ford Mustang -
$6,995 (Previous Preferred
Mustang in the "Project Car" Category)
Description: 289 V8, automatic, power steering, AM radio, bucket seats, good solid body, clean interior,
original paint, runs & drives good.
NADA: $10,400 - $16,700
Source: Classic & Collectible Cars
Found: 10/4/05
Comments: If that really is the original paint we have a great blank canvas here. This
could make the perfect project car. Rust free (I assume, but we would check) and straight, never cut up by anyone. I love it.
It needs some work to bring out the best, but at this price we have eight grand left in our budget to get this project moving. Air conditioning would be first. Next up would be some decent wheels and tires. Rebuild the suspension during the winter, and start adding some power under the hood.
When I found this car it was listed at $8,995, and I selected it as the best project car. I was checking on it in mid November and it was still for sale... for $2,000 less. This is why I tell people to track cars, and negotiate on price.
1968 Chevrolet Camaro - $8,000 (Preferred 1st Generation Camaro - Project Car)
Description: 6 cylinders, 2 spd auto, blue with blue interior, very clean.
NADA: $13,770 - $22,860
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 11/01/05
Comments: Now this looks like a nice blank canvas with a 6 cylinder to use as a project car. If it is rust free it is perfect.
1969 Chevrolet Camaro - $14,500 (Preferred Camaro - Ready To Drive)
Description: Z28 clone, very solid car and runs great. 350, 4 speed.
NADA: $15,950 - $28,275
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 1/24/06
Comments: 69 Camaro with a 4 speed and it is located in
Texas. 'Nuff Said!
1967 Chevrolet Camaro - $15,999
Description: Sport coupe that is a low mile original. It's Marina blue exterior, black vinyl interior, original 6 cylinder with three on the tree trans, Rally wheels, 53,000 miles (which we believe to be true), This car runs and driveslike a excellent classic type car.
NADA: $13,005 - $21,150
Source: Kompact Kar Korner
Found: 12/06/05
Comments: Here is a difficult car. I have always said I would love a 69 Camaro with a 6 cylinder and a manual transmission. This is a 67, so we are real close. I really like the idea of this car... a low mileage, original 6 cylinder car with a three-on-the-tree. But at this price I just can't justify it. I need air conditioning, which I
would bust my $15K budget.
1969 Chevrolet Camaro - $15,000
Description: 350 auto, bucket seats, console, floor shift, many extras.
NADA: $15,100 - $27,200
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 11/01/05
Comments: We have far too few details and only one picture that
barely looks decent. But we have to call about a
69 Camaro.
1968 Chevrolet Camaro SS - $11,000
Description: Solid body/frame, garaged since 97, some new/perf. pts. Good rest. or driver w/minor work. 350SS.
NADA: $19,200 - $34,400
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 11/01/05
Comments: What's wrong with this car? How much work does it need?
Is it really a SS350? There's only one way to find out... call.
1969 Chevrolet Camaro - $14,900
Description: 454 big block V8, auto, power steering, console, rallies, cowl hood, spoiler, new hugger orange & white paint, color buffed, weather stripping, many new interior parts, extremely nice, must see!, dry, solid NM desert car.
NADA: $14,250 - $25,200
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 10/01/05
Comments: A 69 Camaro from New Mexico. Should be
rust free. A must call.
1968 Chevrolet Camaro - $13,999
Description: Corvette bronze, original color, black original interior, black nose stripe, 2-door, 327, 4sp, fold down r/seat, Rallyes, 2nd-owner.
NADA: $18,990 - $30,980
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 1/24/06
Comments: A 4 speed in a Camaro, I have to check it out. Call and get
better pictures and info.
1969 Chevrolet Camaro - $13,000
Description: SS X11, auto, V8, center console, green interior and exterior, Cragar wheels, new tires.
NADA: $15,100 - $27,200
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 1/24/06
Comments: I can't believe this is a true SS. If so it is way
under priced. NADA tacks on 30% for the SS option. I did not include it in the price above because I have a hunch it is not real.
As for the car, the picture looks good. I want to see more.
1967 Chevrolet Camaro - $12,000
Description: White w/blue interior, 85,000 miles, power steering, fold down back seat, 250/2spd, rides & drives excellent, dependable, drive anywhere.
NADA: $13,770 - $22,860
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 1/24/06
Comments: Another blank canvas. I like 6 cylinders, but would prefer a manual transmission. It would be tough to decide where to put the three grand left over in my budget first. Wheels and tires? Overdrive tranny? Air condition? Manual tranny swap? I like the possibilities, and I like the car.
1969 Chevrolet Camaro - $13,500
Description: SS clone, V8, new motor, LeMans blue car, lots new, very nice, serious inquiries only.
NADA: $15,100 - $27,200
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 1/24/06
Comments: Another 69 Camaro. I can't help myself.
1969 Camaro - $13,900
Description: Z28 trim, 350, at, ps, buckets/console, Cowl hood, rear spoiler, X11 car, red with black int. Good condition!
NADA: $16,388 - $28,980
Source: Just Muscle Cars
Found: 12/02/05
Comments: 69 Camaro! I priced it with a 350. If it is not a numbers matching engine then deduct 15% from the NADA value.
1972 Chevrolet Camaro - $6,000 (Preferred 2nd Generation Camaro - Project Car)
Description: 350 V8 Engine. Automatic Transmission. Power Steering. Power Brakes. Factory Air Conditioning Incomplete. Runs Great. New Paint. Interior Needs To Be Finished.
NADA: $9,405 - $15,290
Source: Oldies But Goodies
Found: 10/4/05
Comments: This might be a good project car. The
interior is a mess and the A/C in incomplete,
but the price is low. I would be very temped if
this car was local.
1971 Chevrolet Camaro - $14,000
Description: RS, V8, 4 barrel carburetor, 4 spd, ac, power steering, power brakes, front disk brakes, blk interior in good condition, orange reddish exterior, good condition, brand new tires, no rust, solid.
NADA: $13,160 - $20,715
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 12/07/05
Comment: Wow, a Florida based Camaro RS with a 4 speed, A/C and no rust.
If we could just get rid of those silver
stripes.
1973 Chevrolet Camaro LT - $11,995 (Preferred 2nd Generation Camaro - Ready To Drive)
Description: Nice very original Chevrolet Camaro LT Equipment: Power Steering, Power Disc Brakes.
NADA: $12,250 - $18,500
Source: Kassabian Motors
Found: 12/07/05
Comments: What's wrong with this car. The color is a little unusual, but very nice. The interior is clean and has the fake wood grain, which I assume comes with
the LT package. They don't mention A/C, but it is clearly in the pictures. So what gives?
Why isn't this car priced through the roof.
1973 Chevrolet Camaro - $11,800
Description: 350 V-8, auto, PS/PB, working A/C, brown, 54,500 original miles, garage kept most of its life.
NADA: $10,750 - $17,688
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 1/24/06
Comments: Now this is the kind of blank canvas I like. A low mileage original car that is just a little off the mainstream.
1973 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 - $14,900
Description: Auto, A/C, tilt, this is an ultra rare Z28/RS/TYPE LT. Only a handful were built! Restored w/orig. engine, blue w/black interior.
NADA: $21,560 - $42,420
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 1/24/06
Comments: I usually avoid cars pictured in snow. But this car could be something if it is a real Z/28 with both the RS and Type LT options. NADA
lists the Type LT separate from the Z/28. You can't combine them. So we need to do research on that. Regardless, NADA still prices this car pretty high as a Z/28 RS. It's got to be worth calling.
1970 Chevrolet Camaro - $6,500
Description: A/T, power steering, power brakes, 307, chrome rims, must see.
NADA: $10,400 - $17,100
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 1/24/06
Comments: It's very hard to tell with this picture. It looks like it needs paint. I think the door lock is missing. But it's a California car. If it is rust free it might be a great blank canvas for a project. Check it out.
1971 Chevrolet Camaro - $13,995
Description: RS, Type LT, A/C, power windows, power door locks, tilt, cruise control, 350 ci, at, horseshoe shifter, dark blue w/white stripes, 81k original miles.
NADA: $14,183 - $23,173
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 1/25/06
Comments: Now I am impressed. And the picture isn't even any good. With good pictures I should be blown away. I don't think the Type LT option was available in 71, so we have a little research to do. I love
the split bumper RS Camaros. This one deserves a call.
1973 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 - $13,900
Description: Performance built 350 V8, Turbo 400 automatic. Power steering, power disc brakes, deluxe black cloth interior with center shift console, in-dash tach and gauge package, original Z/28 wheels, front and rear spoilers. Great running real Z/28 that’s a blast to drive.
NADA: $14,500 - $28,100
Source: Memory Lane Motors
Found: 12/02/05
Comments: A real Z/28 in my price range. Cool! I did not price this car with A/C. It clearly had it, but is not complete. BTW... I
think this is the first year they offered A/C with the Z/28 package. Other than getting the A/C working this car is ready to go.
1970 Chevrolet Camaro - $14,500
Description: Blue with silver stripes. Matching numbers car, 250 6-cyl., 4
speed, 3.73 posi-traction rear. Original paper work with car,
Protect-o-Plate, cowl hood. Offenhauser intake, Holley 4 barrel, power steering, disc brakes, A/C, headers. Bucket seats, factory gauges, AM/FM/CD. Rallye wheels. Good looking car, good driver.
Value: $10,133 - $15,208
Source: East Coast Classic Cars
Found: 5/9/05
Comments: This car has been here
before, and was still for sale in mid February.
I like the 6 cylinder with the 4 speed. Hate
silver stripes. Seems a little pricey.
1971 Chevrolet Camaro - $15,000
Description: This is a great Camaro Z/28 clone, restored car with 75,338 miles. It is red with black stripes and a black interior. Engine is a 350 cubic inch with a 350 automatic transmission. Both are rebuilt and have less than 15,000 miles on each. Car has bucket seats and console shifter. An excellent driver. Rear end is a 10 bolt with a 3:73 gear and a limited slip differential.
NADA: $9,948 - $15,928
Source: Classic Lady Motors
Found: 12/07/05
Comments: Wow, a nice looking Z/28 clone. I am impressed. They are asking top dollar for a Camaro... it's a clone thing. I
would talk them down because clones are not recognized, plus it is only a clone in looks. The 71 Z/28 got an LT-1 engine and was not available with air conditioning. This car doesn't have air, but it did. That's another negotiating tool to get the price down... fixing the A/C, which I need to do. Let's offer $12K and plan to go as high a $13K.
1972 Chevrolet Camaro RS - $8,000
Description: Green, power steering, power brakes, air, 350, auto, 700R4 conversion, 4.10 posi, 4 way disc brakes, factory horseshoe console, rust free, desert car.
NADA: $11,970 - $19,460
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 11/01/05
Comments: Sounds good. The price is right. The picture sucks, but doesn't show anything bad. Call and get more pictures.
1969 Pontiac Firebird - $11,000 (Preferred Firebird - Ready To Drive)
Description: Rust free. Unmolested & original
numbers matching OHC 6 cy. New Holley 4 barrel with duel pipes. 2 speed auto. New interior including headliner. New shocks & tires. Runs great. 22 miles per gallon. Great car.
NADA Price:
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 10/6/05
Comments: Perfect... well, almost. It could use a manual transmission.
1967 Pontiac Firebird - $14,900
Description: 326 HO Coupe, CA car, V8, 4-speed, deluxe interior, power steering, restored 2years ago, 90,000 original miles, 400 hood, excellent car.
NADA: $18,360 - $37,260
Source: Cruisin'
Autos
Found: 1/25/06
Comments: I would prefer a better interior color, but I love the HO
engine and 4 speed transmission. This is top price for me, and it doesn't have air. We need to confirm that this is a numbers matching
H.O. car. I can see getting into negotiations on this one. Just come down
enough in price so I can install A/C.
1968 Pontiac Firebird - $13,000
Description: We are proud to offer this 2nd owner, rust free Texas Firebird that is all original, except for the paint. The paint has a few minor scratches, but is in overall good shape. This car only has 62,000 miles on it and is a real find. It has the GM 2 speed Power-Glide transmission hooked to a 350
c.i. engine. It features a factory air conditioning system (working). The interior is in excellent condition, and is all original with the exception of a 3 gauge panel (oil pressure, temp, and voltmeter) to augment the original "idiot lights". This fine Firebird also comes with the original 1968 Texas license plates and a cover.
NADA: $19,125 - $38,750
Source: Street Rods Forever
Found: 1/25/06
Comments: I like it! Plus, this car is in Austin. I could take a quick trip up there on my way home from work one day. This is my favorite shade of green from the Muscle Car era.
1968 Pontiac Firebird - $15,900
Description: All numbers matching 350 V-8 engine. A Texas car with NO known rust. Heads have been redone, two speed automatic transmission, bucket seats, power steering, factory a/c, and new weather stripping. 61,800 original miles on this beautiful 'Bird. Car cover is included.
NADA: $17,340 - $34,440
Source: AutoMania
Found: 9/27/05
Comments: I would love to negotiate the price down on this.
Mainly because two days after buying this car that Powerglide transmission will start slipping and it will be a one speed transmission in a month. It's happened to me. Figure about $1,000 to cover
the cost of a TH-350 upgrade. I would rather jump to an overdrive tranny, such as
the 200-4R. It has a lower first gear for more power off the line, and the overdrive to help highway mileage. The best of both worlds.
They priced this car below NADA's average retail. I am
surprised. I know this dealership, I pass it everyday on my way to work. I bet he would take $15K for
it easy. But that tranny makes me want to offer $14K to cover myself. Either way I like this car. It is a neat old car.
1967 Pontiac Firebird - $14,750
Description: #s matching, factory A/C car, w/new Pitch black base/clear, factory original rebuilt 326 engine and 2 speed automatic, new dual Flowmaster mufflers with 2.5 inch aluminized exhaust, no rust, no rust, no rust, traction control bar, new carpet, headliner, paint, dash pad, tires, chrome, stainless window trim, sill plates, vent wing rubber, fuzzies, windshield, trunk mat, wheel opening moldings, rocker moldings, antenna, door and window weatherstrip, roof rail weatherstrip, detailed chassis, all stainless emblems are excellent, front end is tight, brakes work excellent and are new, fly in and drive anywhere.
NADA: $14,135 - $28,160
Source: Collectable Cars
Found: 11/01/05
Comments: This is a perfect example of finding a car and just going for it. I found this car and it is located in Texas. I could see it easily. It sounds good, though maybe too much new stuff.
It has air conditioning, which is a must in South Central Texas.
It is finding cars like this, so close to home that makes me believe you need to be patient and flexible. If you are looking for a first generation Camaro, this is a perfectly acceptable alternative. If you stumble on a car like this after a few months of
disappointments trying to get a Camaro you should seriously consider
it.
1968 Pontiac Firebird - $11,900
Description: Very solid, strong running Firebird with a 4-speed and an Auburn posi rear end. Nice black interior and a solid
undercarriage. Very strong running Pontiac 350 engine in a nicely detailed engine compartment. Driver quality paint over a solid metal body.
NADA: $18,063 - $35,875
Source: American Dream Machines
Found: 10/01/05
Comments: It has a four speed. What more can I say.
1968 Pontiac Firebird SE - $10,500
Description: Blue on Blue car, nice driver paint is good. Nice highway geared car. No rust on car anywhere. New radio and
CD changer.
NADA: $14,450 - $28,700
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 12/08/05
Comments: "No rust on car anywhere." Now that's what
I like to here. This car is in New Jersey, so I better get my best friend to look at it for me.
1971 Pontiac Firebird - $10,900
Description: Gorgeous, one owner Firebird. All correct, very original. Beautiful Nordic silver with black vinyl top and black deluxe interior. Matching numbers 350 cubic inch V-8. Automatic transmission. Air conditioning blows cold. Power disc brakes and power steering. Original 8 track stereo even works. Nice chrome and stainless. Factory AM pushbutton radio. Cigarette lighter works. Whitewall radials with stock rings and Pontiac caps. Well maintained. Comes with all receipts. Clean and nice throughout. Runs and drives excellent.
NADA: $9,130 - $16,280
Source: Gentle Touch Motor Cars
Found: 9/16/05
Comments: Wow... I love these Firebirds. The nose makes the look. When these cars are really clean it just works for me. It would only be better if it was gold without the black vinyl roof... aka. James Rockford. Price seems to be about right so it is just a matter of
deciding what we want to do with it... go for a Trans Am look or not.
1970 Pontiac Firebird - $11,900
Description: Beautiful Cardinal Red Exterior. Formula 400 Hood and Special Effects. Tach Dash and 160 MPH Speedometer. Black Interior with Bucket Seats and Console. 350 Cubic Inch V-8 Engine with Automatic Transmission. Power Disc Brakes and Power Steering. Rallye II Wheels. BF Goodrich Radial T/A Raised White Letter Radials. Clean Throughout.
NADA: $8,820 - $17,115
Source: Gentle Touch Motor Cars
Found: 10/26/05
Comments: I am not a huge fan of the
Formula hood. Otherwise this looks like a nice
Firebird. I would probably play up the Formula
thing and turn it into a full blown Formula
Look-a-Like, but try to get the maximum mileage
out of the 350 engine.
1969 Pontiac Firebird - $14,900
Description: Showroom condition first generation Firebird totally stock (have hubaps). 350ci V-8, automatic
Powerglide, perfect interior, no cuts or tears, California car, no underbody rust, runs as good as it looks, new wheels and tires, shocks, brakes. Turn key classic.
NADA: $16,860 - $30,840
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 12/08/05
Comments: Wow, the car looks amazing in the photos. Too bad the guy can't crop a photo to save his life. The paint looks very nice. I know, it is not a high resolution picture, but I can't see any orange peel. I would try to talk him down to cover the cost of replacing the piece of crap Powerglide. Other than that it seems like a nice ride.
1972 Ford Mustang Convertible - $17,995 (Preferred "Big" Mustang - Ready To Drive)
Description: 351 V8, automatic, air conditioning, power steering, power brakes, power top, AM-FM cassette, deluxe interior, bucket seats, console, magnum 500 wheels, dual exhaust, pop open gas cap, urethane front bumper, factory Ram Air. Runs & drives great, super straight body, RARE 1972 Mustang Convertible. Awesome cruiser classic.
NADA: $25,730 - $44,795
Source: Classic & Collectible Cars
Found: 2/2/2006
Comments: The 351 engine boosted the value of this car by 25%. It better be a 351 Cleveland. Let's assume so for
argument's sake. This car is out of my budget, and a far less desirable car than I would normally look at. So why is it here. Because it inspires me. Plain and simple. The pictures are great, showing that you can have good pictures without high resolution. I like the car. All the right option are present. As long as it is a numbers matching, rust free car I am ready to try and talk them down to my price range.
1972 Mustang - $5,900 (Preferred "Big" Mustang - Project Car)
Description: Original, beautiful car with 46K miles. 302 with FMX trans, new tires, new master cylinder, new trunk liner, great original vinyl top and seats, carpet. All chrome & glass nice. Must see to believe. Garaged and pampered. This car has been shown several times.
NADA: $7,750 - $14,000
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 1/25/06
Comments: Now this is why I do this. I love coming across cars like this. Is this a special car? No. Is it a rare & valuable Mustang? No. What is it? It is a super clean, low mileage original car for a really affordable price. This car would make a great daily driver. No, it is not the most popular Mustang out there (not by a long shot). But this is a really nice old car. If you like classic cars then this is a great car to drive. And even though it is not a popular Mustang, watch how many thumbs up you would get driving it.
Please, put some decent wheels on this. Either factory Magnum 500 style wheels or Torque Thrust II wheels. I like it. If I was an a shoestring budget this would be near the top on my list. If you have $8,000 or less this is a perfect car. I say $8,000 because you
might have to add A/C (I do) and to cover the cost of those wheels. Maybe have a little left over for a nice stereo.
1969 Ford Mustang - $8,900
Description: 302CI, Acapulco blue, black interior, power steering/brakes, well maintained, Hawaiian car, garage kept, stock original.
NADA: $16,500 - $26,600
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 11/02/05
Comments: Don't cars in Hawaii rust away worse that those in the snow belt? Be VERY CAREFUL of rust on this car. Otherwise, I really like the look. The color is perfect. I need more than one picture though. Let's call, just for fun.
1969 Ford Mustang Convertible - $14,995
Description: 302, V8, auto, power steering, new custom auto sound radio w/cassette and Sony 10 disc CD changer, new Magnum wheels and tires, new dual exhaust, interior excellent, runs and drives great. A nice weekend driver that always turns heads.
NADA: $18,100 - $29,300
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 11/02/05
Comments: Another repeat car. It still
looks good to me, and it fits this month's
topic.
1970 Ford Mustang - $12,500
Description: All original, one owner, recent frame-on restored 2-dr "pony" with 88,929 odometer miles on 302 V-8 engine, 2-bbl carburetor, automatic C-4 transmission, A/C, power steering, power disc brakes, nice fresh paint, high-back vinyl buckets, door panels and headliner, all new weather strips, new carpet and American Racing Torque Thrust II wheels on new 17" low profile tires.
NADA: $9,718 - $14,835
Source: Lawrence Marshall Antique Cars
Found: 1/25/06
Comments: A nice looking coupe. The wheels give it a great look. Being located in Texas is a huge help... for me.
1970 Ford Mustang Coupe - $10,900
Description: 15,000 ORIGINAL MILES!!! 155 horsepower 250 cubic inch 6 cylinder with a 3 speed automatic transmission, yellow, black vinyl top, black interior, AM/FM CD installed but original radio is in the trunk, power steering, power brakes. This Mustang has spent its life in a garage and has been serviced regularly to insure it is maintaining its original luster. It is just like driving a brand new car. Very tight, shifts well. A unique and well preserved piece of automotive history.
NADA: $6,760 - $10,320
Source: Lee F. Slaughter Inc
Found: 1/25/06
Comments: Can they really prove the mileage. If so then this car would be cool. They have it priced at top dollar, so it better be show ready. I like it. This car would have done really well in my 6 cylinder search a few months ago.
1972 Ford Mustang Mach 1 - $9,900
Description: A one family owned Mach I (05 code) in very good condition is shown here. It was repainted many years ago and is factory stock. 63,000 actual miles. It features a 351 block with automatic trans, power steering & brakes, AM/FM, both spoilers, rear defogger, tinted windows and styled stock wheels. The heater core has been bypassed, but the balance of the options function properly.
NADA: $15,375 - $27,750
Source: Classic Auto Showplace Ltd
Found: 11/02/05
Comments: I am not inspired, but I like the idea of a low
mileage, all stock Mach 1. NADA gives a 25% boost to the value for the 351, so this better be a numbers matching car. Other than that I see potential here. I wouldn't mind tinkering with this car. What would Chip Foose do?
1973 Ford Mustang Convertible - $13,900
Description: 302 V8 2 barrel carb, automatic, disc brakes front, power steering, AM/FM radio casette, nice gold paint on the exterior, has near flawless black interior with sought after woven seat inserts, very good black top with solid glass rear window, black boot, new BF Goodrich Radial T/A 225-60-R14 tires and 500 style wheels. Has the original jack and lug wrench with the key activated locking device that locks these tools and the spare. A stunning car, very straight, no rust, true mileage unknown, engine has been rebuilt when the car was restored a while back, does not smoke, transmission shifts like it's supposed to, the car looks and drives excellent.
NADA: $16,600 - $28,900
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 1/25/06
Comments: Does it have a power top? Does it have air conditioning. A/C we can add, but it must have a power top or I won't look at it.
1971 Ford Mustang - $14,500
Description: 429 4 BRL, automatic transmission, factory A/C, power steering, power breaks, dual exhaust, Sunpro tack and gauge package, new Magnum 500 wheels.
NADA: Fastback: $12,453 - $22,695
Mach 1 : $32,640 - $56,950
Source: R & R Classic Cars
Found: 1/25/06
Comments: I has to be the original engine or don't bother. Is it a Mach 1? He didn't say in the ad.
1973 Ford Mustang - $13,895
Description: MotoeXotica is offering another fantastic Mustang Mach 1. This 1973 Ford Mustang Mach 1 is an original Mach 1 and has the awesome 351 Cleveland with rare 4bbl heads. This is an original A/C car with power steering and power brakes. The interior is new and has been updated with cloth seats that are in great condition. We purchased this car from a gentleman how planed on giving it to his grandson. The grandson had other ideas, so he sold it to me. The car rids and drives nicely with no known issues. He spent a lot of time and money to make the car a very presentable driver. The paint on the car is in good overall condition with no major blemishes. The paint on the car is older but is in overall good shape. Just some minor scratches and dings to the body. Both front and rear bumpers look good overall with only some very minor scratches and pitting to the rear and some paint peeling off the front. The black Mach 1 striping looks great and has no major imperfections. Inside the car looks great. The seats are all in near perfect condition and have all been reupholstered in cloth. The dash looks very good with no cracking or buckling to be found. The carpet and headliner are both in very good condition with no tears or major staining. The door panels are equally as nice with no scuffs or tears. This is an original A/C car with all the controls still inside but the compressor belt is currently missing. All lights, blinkers and wipers work with no problems but the horn is currently inoperable as well as the tachometer. The original AM/FM tape radio works with no problems. The 351 Cu In Cleveland V8 with 4bbl heads is in nice, original condition. The motor has not been detailed or dressed up with lots of chrome pieces. The only thing that has been updated is the Holley carb which is a 4bbl. The true dual exhaust system sounds great with its glass pack mufflers. This is a power steering and power brake car with A/C but the compressor is currently missing its belt. The floors are solid with no rot to be found and has been undercoated. The same goes for the frame and trunk. The wheels are wrapped with P245/60 SR14 radials that have decent tread life left on them. The current mileage shows 83,060 and the VIN number is 3F05H254373 and the car is being sold on a mileage exempt Oklahoma title.
NADA: $17,780 - $35,980
Source: MotoeXotica.com
Found: 12/15/05
Comments: A Mach I with the 351 Cleveland
and air conditioning. Nice combination.
1969 Ford Mustang Grande - $12,900
Description: Remanufactured 302 Engine still under warranty, 351 cam and heads, high compression pistons, Holley 4bbl carb, Edelbrock intake, Hedman Hedders, Aluminum valve covers, electronic ignition, front disk brakes, cd player, dual exhaust, custom chrome wheels. Almost the Boss 302 engine. Looks great and drives great.
NADA: $9,350 - $16,300
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 12/09/05
Comments: All he talks about is the engine. This sounds like a hot rod to me. Not a problem, but we know the remanufactured engine is not the original, so I didn't supply an engine on NADA's site. I
actually like the look of the car. The rear wheels have too much positive offset. They should be tucked in better, and the car should be lowered about two inches all the way around... maybe more. I would put this car closer to NADA's average retail price and try to offer him $9,000 with the limit of $10,000.
1970 AMC AMX - $14,500 (Preferred AMX - Ready To Drive)
Description: 360 engine, 4 speed ps, pb, factory air, disk brakes, posi trac, new original colors, all new interior, new brakes and front end, factory mags, duals, bumpers rechromed, absolutely no rust.
NADA: $15,740 - $25,080
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 11/02/05
Comments: This is too good to be true. If I had the money on the date I found this car I would have bought it. What's not too like. A rust free southern car (the seller was in Louisiana) with a 4 speed and air conditioning. Unless this is a victim of a hurricane I can't see any reason not to buy it.
1969 AMC AMX 390 - $16,500
Description: They're hard to find but here's a factory 390, 4 speed, 1969 AMX Sport Coupe! VIN includes "M" - 4 speed code & "X" - 390 motor code. Painted in the original Hunter Green Metallic with Charcoal Interior. Power options include steering & brakes. Equipped with solid lifter cam; rebuilt carb; new master cylinder and calipers; vertical gate shifter; in dash tach; over 400 hp. Also includes original manifold. Don't miss it!
NADA: $15,099 - $24,054
Source: Classic Auto Showplace Ltd.
Found: 12/01/05
Comments: 4 Speed! 'Nuff Said.
1969 AMC Javelin - $7,500
Description: 343, 4-speed Hurst, factory A/C, clean straight, solid, fast, show or drive.
NADA: $7,583 - $12,853
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 11/02/05
Comments: Air and a four speed in a
pony car. I should at least check it out.
1973 Dodge Challenger - $15,500 (Preferred Mopar - Ready To Drive)
Description: This Eggshell white w/white vinyl top 1973 Dodge Challenger 2-door Hardtop Coupe has a 318 cid V-8 engine, 4-bbl Holley carburetor and automatic transmission with the shifter located on the console that separates bucket seats. The odometer mileage reads 40,696. Additional features include power steering, power disc brakes, dual air scoop hood, factory A/C and dual exhaust. The interior is in good condition with vinyl bucket seats, door panels and headliner.
NADA: $14,575 - $25,300
Source: Lawrence Marshall Antique Cars
Found: 1/25/06
Comments: Vanishing Point! Am I the only one that gets that. Well, check your old "car
movies" on DVD. In
Vanishing Point the guy drives across the country trying to escape the law with drugs on board a white Challenger. I have not seen the movie yet, but
I get the reference.
The A/C does it for me. This car also happens to be located in Texas! What a combination. It also looks real nice.
1967 Plymouth Barracuda - $7,100 (Preferred Mopar - Project Car)
Description: Notchback, clean TX car,
all original, mint interior, 6 cyl, column, AT,
A/C, nice chrome, faded paint, 1 owner title,
sharp.
NADA: $10,750 - $18,000
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 1/25/06
Comments: A/C and a slant 6. Wow! I was
really intrigued by the "TX car"
thing. Clearly they have moved it up to snow
country. Maybe we should bring it back to the
Lone Star state and make a daily driver out of
it. We should be able to afford a really nice
paint job while still staying well within out
budget.
1967 Plymouth Barracuda - $6,900
Description: New yellow paint, slant 6 225, daily driver, runs great.
NADA: $9,675 - $16,200
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 11/01/05
Comments: Hmmm. I am not thrilled with the
color, but if this is a rust free car how can we go wrong at this price. If you want a 6 this is worth a look.
1967 Plymouth Barracuda - $10,500
Description: Coupe, yellow with black interior, 273 Commando, automatic, factory air, Centerline wheels, number matching.
NADA: $13,975 - $23,400
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 1/25/06
Comments: If I was looking for an early Barracuda I would call on this one. I like the factory air on this car. I also prefer the notchback coupe style these years over the fastbacks.
1973 Dodge Challenger - $13,000
Description: Red/white interior, BEAUTIFUL, interior like new, 318 slapstick, 89k original miles, new Goodyear Tires, factory Rallye wheels, runs/drives excellent, CD.
NADA: $13,250 - $23,000
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 1/25/06
Comments: The picture is just good enough to get me interested. Let's see some better pictures.
1970 Mercury Cougar - $15,000 (Preferred Cougar - Ready To Drive)
Description: Mercury's top cat for 1970--the longer, sleeker, sportier and bolder Cougar. Is it an Eliminator? Nope, it has a few of the Eliminator's features: hood scoop, chin spoiler, trunk spoiler and a new stripe kit in the trunk. With the exception of the Eliminator add-ons (and chrome valve covers and custom American Racing wheels), the car is a stock, 2 owner 80k mile car. 351 V8 engine with optional 4 bbl, optional Select Shift automatic transmission with floor mounted shifter, power steering, dual hydraulic brake system with self-adjusting brakes, and a flow-thru ventilation system. For comfort there is power steering, air conditioning and an AM/FM/cassette stereo. The interior features high back bucket seats covered in vinyl, full door trim panels, color-keyed carpeting and headliner. This Cougar also has a carpeted trunk, dual sport mirrors and a dash mat. A nice additional bonus is the original owner's manual. Extremely clean inside and out, this Cougar is powerful, agile and luxurious and earns every bit of its "top cat" status.
NADA: $11,906 - $17,406
Source: Midway Auto Sales & Classic Cars
Found: 6/22/05
Comments: This is my overall favorite of the month. I love the look of this car. Since it has been sitting for over 6 months we should be able to get away with low balling it by 2-3K. If this car doesn't sell by the end of 2007 I may have to make an offer.
1967 Mercury Cougar - $12,900
Description: GT, rare original, 4 speed, S code 390 CI, 9 posi, originally southern car, great condition.
NADA: $17,170 - $27,030
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 11/01/05
Comments: The picture sucks. Worse, it looks like the smaller image is being used for the bigger image. But the stats make this car worth a call. Factory 4 speed in a Cougar AND a big block. I can't pass up getting more information.
1968 Mercury Cougar - $10,000
Description: XR-7, 302 engine, 50.5k original miles, clean & garage kept, original interior.
NADA: $13,450 - $21,500
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 11/01/05
Comments: Really? 50K original miles. It sure looks clean. It looks like a red interior, which I hate. But maybe it won't be bad. Definitely worth a call.
1970 Mercury Cougar - $6,725
Description: XR-7, blue, 90k miles, w/white top, white inter, $5k in paint, factory chrome wheels, 351 Cleveland, no rust, show or drive, fmx transmission, posi, power steering, power brakes, all factory, nice.
NADA: $14,835 - $23,920
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 11/01/05
Comments: Looks like a good blank canvas for a project car.
1972 Mercury Cougar XR-7 - $11,500
Description: This great looking bright
red 1972 Cougar XR-7 convertible is ready to go!
Nicely equipped with a white power top &
white interior. Powered with the 351 2 barrel V8
motor and automatic transmission. Power options
include steering, brakes, & top. Also
equipped with factory air conditioning; am/fm
stereo with 8 track; rim-blow horn; new tires;
new battery. Built in Dearborn, MI, ordered for
the Los Angeles district. Sharp!
NADA: $14,760 $23,760
Source: Classic Auto Showplace Ltd.
Found: 10/19/05
Comments: I don't know why I look at
these. But they should make great cruisers. This
car was originally listed for $13,500. I always
say, "everything is negotiable!"
1967 Mercury Cougar - $5,650
Description: Good body, new red interior, 289 V8, 3 spd, w/Borg-Warner 4 spd transmission,
Hurst shifter, Rallye wheels, front disc brakes.
NADA: $10,100 - $15,900
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 1/25/06
Comments: A manual transmission... and it's located in Texas. Why not take a look.
1973 Mercury Cougar XR7 Convertible - $6,450
Description: 351 V8, automatic, power steering, power disc brakes, air conditioning, power top, bucket seats, console, factory
gauge package, AM-FM radio. One owner with original documentation. Runs & drives great, older paint, mostly original interior, good driver. Spent most of its life in San Diego. A great affordable convertible.
NADA: $12,155 - $19,435
Source: Classic & Collectible Cars
Found: 2/2/06
Comments: That sounds about right... "A great affordable convertible." Why not!
1970 Mercury Cougar Convertible - $14,950
Description: V8, 351 motor, at, twin tail exh, lthr, blk interior, blue paint, tv, dvd, cd stereo, bass boom amp, 99k miles, sequential tail lights.
NADA: $15,985 - $24,955
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 1/25/06
Comments: How much can we knock off the price if we get rid of the TV/DVD and other stereo junk. Does it have a power top? Worth a call.
1970 Mercury Cougar XR-7 - $9,000
Description: Florida car, one owner, always garaged. Completely original. Yellow color w/black leather interior, buckets w/console. Engine 351C V8, good running, recent paint, and absolutely no rust. Sequential tail lights work. Great collector car. Serious inquiries only. Price
negotiable.
NADA: $13,365 - $21,230
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 11/01/05
Comments: A little plain for my taste, but he says the price is negotiable right out of the box. Check the car and bring $7,000 cash with you. Make the offer if the car checks out. He'll take it.
1977 Ford Mustang II - $5,995 (Preferred "Late" Mustang - Project Car)
Description: This is a ONE OWNER car with 43,000 ORIGINAL MILES! It features the 6-CYL. motor. Power steering and brakes. Automatic transmission. A/C. The original paint and interior are in excellent condition. Runs and drives "like new" and gets great MPG. Original owner says always grauged and never wet. MUST SEE!!
NADA: $3,575 - $5,525
Source: Premium Motors
Found: 9/23/05
Comments: I find it odd that NADA took 10% off the value of this vehicle with the 6 cylinder engine. Granted, it put the 10% back for the A/C. But there was no engine option for this car that does not effect the price. A 4 cylinder gets a 15% reduction, while the 302 V-8 gets a 10% increase. What engine would get no adjustment? Another reason why I don't like NADA.
This is the last of the "Charlie's Angel" Mustangs. A lot of people give these cars a lot of
grief. It is largely a mistake. If you look at the sales figures for the 1974 Mustang (the first of the Mustang IIs) you will see Ford sold more than they did since 1967. Clearly the public liked the smaller, less aggressive style early Mustang, which the 74 model recreated nicely.
1976 Ford Mustang II Hatchback - $4,900
Description: Pale yellow w/gold pale yellow int, v6, automatic, original 25k mi, car was in the same family for 26 years, new tires,
trophy winner, exc cond.
NADA: $4,075 - $6,600
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 12/08/05
Comments: Really... 25,000 original miles and a trophy winner. Should be worth checking out.
1977 Ford Mustang Cobra II - $10,500
Description: V8, 4 speed auto, A/C, 4.11 Posi, shift kit, nitrous, line lock, + more. 12,200 miles, over $32,000 invested, must see.
NADA: $5,285 - $7,980
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 11/22/05
Comments: Sounds like he set it up for racing. Might want to avoid. Also overpriced. If it is a factory Cobra II then I would still be interested. Is it the original engine?
1977 Ford Mustang Cobra II - $4,900
Description: White, auto, 302/V8 engine, has new paint and graphics, 43k actual miles, in good condition.
NADA: $5,285 - $7,980
Source: Collector Car Trader
Found: 12/08/05
Comments: Yuck to the red. Otherwise it seems O.K.
